In general, in the CIS internet it’s somehow customary now to laugh at feminists more.
We are generally accustomed to not taking representatives of such movements seriously, to despise them and, at best, to laugh at them. Along with representatives of LGBT people, * some unpopular religions, etc.d. However, if our adequate majority still at least somehow empathizes with gays, because in our country living with a non-traditional orientation is quite a feat, then absolutely everyone laughs at feminists. And, to be honest, not without reason. However, in the West the approach to this kind of thing is completely different.
In recent years, so-called “modern” feminism (sorry, swear word). I didn’t teach some of it, I don’t know what wave) grew into a whole giant movement. Moreover, quite influential. Typically, all they do is criticize something. And surprisingly, they are often listened to.
For example, TV series, the same Game of Thrones, are now falling victim to feminists (those who are in the know understand what I mean). There is now a trend in cinema for actresses like Brie Larson, with, let’s say, down-to-earth looks. And in recent years, this cancer has reached games. Not only did she get there, but she also settled down there thoroughly..
* The activities of the international LGBT social movement are recognized as extremist and prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation
Tomb Raider
Dragon Age: Inquisition
Assassin’s Creed: Syndicate
Mass Effect: Andromeda
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Loud statement. They rather laugh at militant feminists, who often say absurd things and do who knows what. But any extreme is absurd. Judging by my friends, the vast majority will not be able to answer the first time how a feminist differs from a man-hater. It’s very depressing.
As for the question itself asked in the title. It’s not feminism that kills games, it’s the developer. The team has its own head on its shoulders (and more than one, by the way). And they themselves decide which wishes of society and individual players in particular to listen to, and which not to. And it’s often not feminists who write the script; they are not the ones who fix bugs and optimize games.
By the way, in your video you also sometimes showed the opposite extreme. Don’t exaggerate it like that, it’s not that bad.
In general, I think that the question asked is not so much about feminism specifically, but about going to any extremes.
I believe that the influence of feminism on games should increase as quickly as possible! More feminism=>more scary women characters=>less desire to waste time on games=>more motivation to look for pretty girls in reality
In my opinion, there is very little objectivity in the video. Taste in everything (especially in the part devoted to assessing appearance). And the far-fetched problems of gender of workers to the problems of corporations and projects. There are, of course, justified elements, but most of them are sewn with white thread. After all, the problems with scripts and other things have to do with terrible writers, not their gender. The fact that Uwe Boll is a man does not make his films any better. The fact that Agatha Christie is a woman does not make her detective stories boring. As opposed to, say, Scorsese (in the case of Bol) and Veronica Roth (Christie). Again a matter of taste? Maybe. However:
If the project is good, no one cares about the gender of the head.G. But when the project is unsuccessful, or at least controversial, the shelling of random targets begins: “Why did it turn out to be shit?”?». Adding modern hypes (gays, feminists, races, etc.).d and t.n) and we get a picture distorted by the current “hot topics”. But in fact, the car just had three wheels. And the color of the body has nothing to do with the fact that it is impossible to drive.
IMHO (however, like the author).
“What do you think” – I think feminism has an impact on games, but does it ruin them? Let’s be serious, Biovar is a company that has long been afraid of everything and everyone, and is trying to attract as many different audiences as possible. And this is expressed not only in down-to-earth women, but also in gay couples. Your argument about the fact that they were “Before” is one thing, but the fact that in Biovar projects they are the vast majority is another. So to speak, the first does not neutralize the second.
In terms of Yubikov, it’s generally a laugh, but a sin. Yes, trends and influence are a fact, they exist, but does it spoil their games?? Um… No. Unity clearly did not suffer from feminism, and the Syndicate did not suffer from the presence of a boy-woman and a standard character of a fool-silovik (There are like gangs and all that, and he is involved in them. It would be strange if he was brainy), but solely because of the script, because in gameplay, graphical and aesthetic terms he only won.
Dice’s example doesn’t even want to be analyzed, because there’s nothing serious there at all.
Well, in general, there is no fear. What is there to be afraid of?? There aren’t that many companies that are directly pushing this whole thing, and it hasn’t had much of an impact on their games at all. And, of course, the fact that there are plenty of other studios cannot be missed at all. There will always be the Japanese you mentioned earlier with their Senran Kagura and Criminal Girls, and other developers who will simply cut games without focusing on one or the other.
In general, until the gaming industry turns into exceptional wimps like Biovar, there is nothing to be afraid of.
In fact, this notorious interview only confirms her failure as a screenwriter, and does not justify it. After all, what is a good screenwriter?? Personally, in my understanding, he is a master of writing stories, adapting them to the needs of the mechanics and capabilities of the game for which he is writing. And a person who considers himself a professional must be able to dodge and deliver a high-quality story within the framework in which he was placed, and not fight with other participants in the development flow for every plot twist.
And if there was such a brilliant script that the evil guys cut up, let him take it and put its original version in the public domain. If her employment contracts allow her to do this, of course.
In our country, living with a “non-traditional” sexual orientation is truly quite a feat. I say this… also as a YouTuber. 😉
And if in essence, I completely agreed with the beginning, but closer to the end it seemed more and more that the author was exaggerating. Even though he states in plain text that he doesn’t. Let’s go:
* “male-Rider is prettier than female-Rider” – I wouldn’t say. That’s right. He is mediocrity itself. Moreover, not in the neutral sense of the word (as with Brie Larsen, who is discussed at the beginning), but in the worst possible way.
* So the problem https://non-uk-casinos.co.uk/review/lucki-casino/ here is not feminism, but simply social justice / body positive – and I fully share my wariness about this trend.
* adding a female character to the joke – yes, it was done contrary to historical accuracy. And done deliberately. But this is not feminism, but a banal attempt to add a character to the game for everyone – so that everyone can associate themselves with one of the characters. Including girls. Jesters are the most sexist genre in terms of plot, where the role of women is, at best, to act as furniture. And this is still a problem. Perhaps I will open America to the author, but in principle, shooter mechanics are less interesting to girls than to boys, but not radically less. The main reason why they don’t play jokes from the word “at all” is precisely because they are perceived there in such a wildly chauvinistic way. And this needs to be changed.
* The quality of the script, which has been “sliding downhill” since the Inquisition, is not only and not so much “feminism” and “leftists”, but rather a request from the audience. You’ll still laugh, but yes: the game is made like this not because evil homosexual dyke feminists lobby for their filthy interests, but it’s stupid because such a game… will sell better. The modern gamer is a hamster. The same hamster as Apple consumers and/or active social media users. And his request is appropriate. And you and I are a dying race of “aesthetic fagots” who don’t want to eat summer blockbusters with popcorn. Our opinion is still taken into account, because we are opinion makers. But it is no longer at the forefront.
* Forgive my frankness, but yes: Josephine’s appearance is not just bad, but ugly. Even I can see this, although I don’t understand a damn thing about female beauty. But the Inquisitor, if you believe the video (I haven’t played DA:I myself) is indeed much more fabled than her. Here the claim is completely justified.
* In general, for some reason the author completely loses sight of the fact that the gaming industry itself is changing. And now games are no longer just for guys. Therefore, it is quite natural that things appear there that are clearly targeted at the female audience. And judging by the rhetoric, the only arrangement that will suit the author is “put everything back”. T.e. again a complete disregard for the female audience and an exclusive focus on the average heterosexual guy. Such views are still not the case in 2017.
Although, yes, in some (special) cases, feminists diagnosed with “Anita Sargsyan” do spoil games, and quite significantly at that.
Well, that is, it turns out that the main complaint of the entire video is addressed not so much to feminists as to “leftists,” yes? Just let’s immediately define the terminology: “leftists” are not just liberals/libertarians and other supporters of equality. And the completely beaten freaks who, taking advantage of their position as “oppressed” and “not like everyone else,” wrest privileges for themselves, not equality. Without this clarification, I can be classified as a “leftist”.
And now – back to the problem.
Healthy feminism is good, very good. And one of the main tasks healthy feminism – the desire not to “deny rights” to women, but to equalize their rights with men. That is, including deprivation of a number of privileges. A proper feminist should demand equal treatment not only in matters of political and career equality, but also in matters of… providing for the family, military service, and even the banal “Give in to the girl”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA
Healthy protection of LGBT* rights is also good. The appearance of gay characters in games and their transformation from secondary to primary is a good thing.
It is clear that I am an interested party here. But, excuse me, why the hell should I buy games in which my interests are completely ignored, and natural fan service is aggressively shoved under my nose??
Then Miranda, sparkling her behind, pours out her soul about what a difficult fate she has as a woman-with-an-ideal-body. Moreover, “sparkling behind” is not a figure of speech at all. Being gay, you can’t help but notice how sexually objectified ALL female characters are in ALL games (minus the last couple of years). Just count how often the camera “accidentally” stops on either the heroine’s bust or her butt.
Although a completely identical emphasis on, say, the torso of a male character and – even more so, God forbid – his groin, or toned ass will immediately become the main scandal of the year. Then an entire race in the game has been turned into blue-skinned chicks, one of whose representatives is so much better developed that the rest of the romance options a priori pale in comparison to it. That, finally, set the teeth on edge armored bikini.
Nuok, I don’t mind. Satisfying player desires is what games are made for. But then where is the symmetrical fan service for gays and/or straight girls??
In the game (only in the LAST part, please note) – they just added Cortez, and the waves of shit rose up so much that they covered even such a giant as EA. Moreover, he did not walk around the entire game bare-chested and/or in tight suits. He was not given 10 times more screen time than all the other characters combined (and in general he is like a Persian – he turned out to be extremely gray). After all, for some reason there isn’t a whole race of sexy men in the game.
But meanwhile, we all remember the degree of homo-rage towards ME3, and accusations of extreme “leftism” of this game are still heard.
Although in fact, contrary to the generally accepted position about the “blueness” and “rainbowness” of EA games, ME specifically is a damn sexist, heterosexually oriented game. And how her fan community went crazy after adding couples LGBT options speaks volumes.
Exactly the same appearance in games of disabled characters (Joker from ME) and representatives of different nationalities (Simpa Cortez from the same ME, and, yes, Josephine was also made with this audience in mind) – this is also understandable. The bad ones are just anecdotal blacks in a vacuum who, in response to any complaint, yell “THIS PATAMUSHTA I’M BLACK?!»
So – your video is not so much about feminism, but about repulsed inadequates who, hiding behind some good goals, promote their personal interests. In this regard, feminism is no different from, say, moralism and the eternal desire to ban games (hello, gentlemen Milonozulina). And it was precisely this substitution of concepts and confusion of various reasons in the video that alarmed me. If all things were called by their proper names, most likely there would be no questions.
* The activities of the international LGBT social movement are recognized as extremist and prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation
What’s wrong with Brie Larson’s appearance?? In my opinion, everything is very good.
And if “modern feminism” had such a terrible influence on cinema, the cast of some Gotham Sirens (Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Catwoman) would look something like this:
It seems that Rihanna Pratchett told in an interview how during the development of Lara she fought with the developers over the script, they say they eventually compressed it and cut it for the sake of gameplay. Like that’s why Lara becomes the Terminator so unnaturally quickly. Maybe she’s lying, or maybe it all happened like that. In the end, developers have more power to dictate terms.
Then you shouldn’t forget about the publisher. As practice has shown in recent years, some publishers monitor the development process very closely, or even interfere in it unscrupulously.
However, if our adequate majority still at least somehow empathizes with gays, because in our country living with a non-traditional orientation is quite a feat, then absolutely everyone laughs at feminists.
What kind of nonsense is this anyway?? Gays seem to disgust many people when they simply don’t understand women, because they don’t see serious inequalities and don’t understand their “struggle”. It’s as if I didn’t conduct a survey, but sure enough, if I had, the results would have been the same, or in favor of women, because those people cause some unpleasant reactions only because of prejudices.
Holy shit, Brie Larson is down to earth.
Actually, I came in just to give a minus purely for the name of the blog, because even it smacks of insanity, but here such crap is written. I didn’t watch the video, of course, but I don’t approve.
but you forget about the examples of the new chest, where from “Oh God, I killed a man” to “it’s time to loot the man,” which did not do the character any good, and only shows how yesterday’s archaeologist can easily become a killing machine, because she is a “strong woman”.
But the fuck-up from dice is actually serious, and snatching a lulya from a husband in Arab countries, both before and now, as was mentioned in the video, is not difficult (we also remember the decriminalization of family beatings in Russia, and think how developed a country we are), you just don’t pay much attention to it, because few people buy battles for a single, that’s all, but in terms of historical correspondence, this is a strong mess
recent years?
In my opinion, this began immediately with the arrival of big money in the IgroIndustry and those same publishers. When you invest money in some product, you hope that it will bring profit, no matter what it will be films, TV series, or our favorite games. Now let’s remember who gives this money, successful businessmen (or a businesswoman if there is already a post about feminism), who put in what the developer wants to do: a puzzle, a shooter, or a revolutionary combination of MMO-Quest-Strategy, they need profit. That’s why there are entire staffs of damn analysts who simply collect mountains of analytical material and draw millions of graphs with supposed “analysis” of what will sell and what won’t. There’s a recent story from a Eurogamer about how EA bosses decided to add co-op and crafting to the game in the final stages of development, because back then co-op was popular in 3rd-person action games. And we can’t say that they are completely wrong! How many copies were sold of psychonauts, beyond good & evil, Deus Ex, Bayonetta, whose sales, even if added together, will not reach the sales of the same BlackOps 3 or one of the intended parts of FIFA. As Lex said above, we are a race of “aesthetic fagots”. And there are too few of us to recoup the money that goes into developing games. I’m already silent that a developer without control can make a frankly crappy game (hello Daikatana, C&C4).
On the other hand, the more people play games, the more “aesthetic faggots” will appear on the market, and Kickstarter was invented for a reason. Not only to play in AAA
I don’t really give a damn about them anymore. But when in real life they become educators, teachers of my children.Then they won’t have time to shout out their famous “Hurray!”. I’m a tolerant!!»
What’s wrong with Larka?? In the first part, she is a wimp who suffers throughout the entire story. The fact that in GAMEPLAY she is a killing machine is another matter, but she is least tied to feminism (There is an article about Rianka on SG). It’s not like she becomes a woman after killing a deer, right?? And in the second part it has already been reasonably graded, what are the problems?
The dices didn’t push the plots at all, but it doesn’t spoil the GAME. This is one moment that does not spoil anything, at most it causes historical quirks, but nothing more.
It will be very interesting to watch. And it’s possible that we can argue based on the results.
This topic is much closer to me, and it seems to me that I have already heard all possible arguments justifying hostility towards LGBT people. So I’m looking forward to the continuation 😉
I’m basically cold towards the entire Dragon Age series. This is regardless of the quality of the game – the setting is just not my thing. I can’t stand all these middle-earths.
In short, personal preference.
* The activities of the international LGBT social movement are recognized as extremist and prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation